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Newsvine Algorithm and potential ranking factors for exposure.

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As I do more and more social media optimization I can see that there is a pattern to most of these sites. Just like there is a pattern to SEO and Marketing (a formula … if you will). The exciting thing about all of these types of jobs is that every keyword, every site and every social media is different and gives us the opportunity to stay on our toes.

I was recently working on newsvine.com looking into how to draw traffic and how to get articles onto the first page of a given catagory. While I was looking this site over I jotted a list together of potential ranking factors for newsvine.com.

• Reputation of Profile
  • How many friends does a profile have
  • How many people have you on their watchlist
  • How long your profile has been around
  • How well your articles and or seeds have been received
  • Are a majority of users story or articles from ONE url
  • How many times a article or seed has become popular
  • Your vineacity rank
  • How many articles you have submitted and how well they have done
  • How many popular comments you have received
• Reputation of friends profile
  • How reputable a friends profile is gives weight on votes on your own post
• Comments
  • How many comments does a certain story get
  • How many positive votes do the comments get
• Submit a like story related to what has been submitted by newsvine for your specific targeted catagory.
  • A majority of links that are submitted that are related to a newsvine story tend to appear under the top seeds section
• What domain name a story is submitted from
  • A majority of “wires” come from newspaper sites and writers and do not have many comments or votes but are on the top page because of where they are submitted from.
• Groups
  • How many groups you are a member of
  • How active you are in the groups
  • how long you have been in a group
• Number of views
  • A high number of views with no votes could mean no one likes the story and subsequently your entry will never make it to a top page.
  • Length of views
• Hand Jobs
  • Just like some of the major search engines and social media sites there is a good chance they do hand jobs thanks to people like me
• Source of votes
  • Tracking IP addresses
  • Tracking browser id’s
  • Tracking login account ID’s could help newsvine keep track of vote groups who’s sole purpose is to vote, comment and help rank articles on the home page or sub page
• Follow the Code of Honor!
• The “Freshness Factor”
  • How new the article is. Older content will get pushed down eventually.

Something that I found pretty interesting is that newsvine actually gives you some sort of insight into there ranking algorithm by showing you a chart they call “vineacity”. I have posted the image below. Special thanks to Aine MacDermot for some extra insight into how newsvines ranking is determined.

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9 Comments »

• Lee Odden // January 18, 2007 at 10:48 am

  Hey Joe, this post is very thorough. With so much emphasis on Digg these days, there’s not much attention being paid to the other social news services like NewsVine. Well done! You should submit this to WebProNews.com


• Joe Whyte // January 19, 2007 at 1:26 am

  Hey Lee,

  Thanks for the kind words. I submitted to web pro news so I am hoping that post it there as well.

  Thanks,

  Joe


• aine // January 19, 2007 at 3:11 pm

  And thanks for the hat tip.


• I made it to the front of the technology page on Newsvine.com | Joe Whyte - Seo Consulting - Rockyfied // January 24, 2007 at 12:04 am

  […] Newsvine puts me on top of their technology page within hours of my article release on the newsvine algorithm. Well utilizing SMO to leverage traffic is a huge advantage to any campaign and knowing HOW to do this is key. I recently created a post on the possible ranking factors on newsvine.com. I examined what could possibly make a article or seed appear on the home page or sub home page for a given tag. Well I just wanted to say “I did IT!!!”. […]


• Expert Search Engine Optimization » Blog Archive » I made it to the front of the technology page on Newsvine.com // January 24, 2007 at 6:49 am

  […] I made it to the front of the technology page on Newsvine.com Newsvine puts me on top of their technology page within hours of my article release on the newsvine algorithm. Well utilizing SMO to leverage traffic is a huge advantage to any campaign and knowing HOW to do this is key. I recently created a post on the possible ranking factors on newsvine.com. I examined what could possibly make a article or seed appear on the home page or sub home page for a given tag. Well I just wanted to say “I did IT!!!”. See the image below showing where I showed up on newsvine. So what did it take? Let me tell you the state of my profile before making it to the first page. 1) I had about 10 friends 2) I had about 2 articles submitted with 1-3 votes each and NO comments on them 3) I was a member for less then a month and a half 4) 1 person had added me to their watch list 5) Never made a story popular before What was special about this article that got me on the home page of technology? 1) One of the most popular and well respected people on newsvine made the first comment and that created my first popular comment. 2) In a short period of time I was over 10 votes. 3) I had a large number of comments. About 10 which is pretty decent for newsvine. 4) The article was interesting and inspired controversy. Any SMO can take this idea and apply it to other social media sites but its all about determining possible ranking factors for each social media site and doing testing, testing and doing more testing. Somthing I would like to add is the power of seeds Vs. Articles on newsvine. Doing self promotion is against their code of honor but they do provide an area where you can upload full articles of your content. The difference between both is a seed is more like a “digg” and an article is going to be more like uploading content to article distribution sites BUT with more targeted traffic which could bleed over to other forms of traffic redirection. from joe.whyte @ Joe Whyte - Seo Consulting - Rockyfied […]


• clickfire // January 27, 2007 at 7:37 pm

  I enjoyed this post. I do agree with Lee–Newsvine is underrated for SMO.


• DeeJay // February 8, 2007 at 8:05 am

  Very helpful tips. Thanks!


• Getting to the front of Newsvine’s Technology Page | Latent Semantic Indexing // February 8, 2007 at 3:01 pm

  […] Well utilizing SMO to leverage traffic is a huge advantage to any campaign and knowing HOW to do this is key. I recently created a post on the possible ranking factors on newsvine.com. I examined what could possibly make a article or seed appear on the home page or sub home page for a given tag. Well I just wanted to say “I did IT!!!”. […]


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